Hearing on Tillman, Lynch Incidents: Cummings’ Questions

The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform holds a hearing entitled “Misleading Information from the Battlefield.” The hearing focuses on the death of Army Ranger Specialist Patrick Tillman in Afghanistan and the capture and rescue of Army Private Jessica Lynch in Iraq. The Committee examines why inaccurate accounts of these two incidents were disseminated, the sources and motivations for the accounts, and whether the appropriate Administration officials have been held accountable. Rep. Elijah Cummings questions Specialist Patrick Tillman’s brother Kevin Tillman about communications inside the White House related to his brother.

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afghanistantwo three high-ranking generals including generalten singerahead special operations and general avasaramthe head of central commandthe p four memo walenceblackwellit is highly possiblethat corporates cockroach that woman was killed by friendly firethen the boatand this seems to be responding to inquire as from the white houseand here's what it saysand i quotevoters maneuvers in the united states secretary of the army might includecomments about poeple tiptoe means heroes fromand is approved so we'll start meddling speech is currently being preparednot knowing this a civic surrounding his death and the worldhe does want to express concern that the presidentor the first secretary might suffer quotepublic embarrassment if the circumstances of their vote on the staffbecome public and locali would also like to make this before memo part of the hearing recordwithout objection one questions we have is whether this d four memo correct madeit to the white houseand here's what we do knowon april twentieth the white house as for informationabout tillman for speech by the president was giving the next day the pfour memo was setstating that that tillman was still by friendly fire and wanting the presidentagainst mentionedwhen the president spoke at correspondents' dinnerhe was careful in his wordhe prays that tillman skirts carefully avoided describinghow he was stillthis is possible that the people memo was a direct responseso white house is enquiringand yet that is true it means that the white house knew the true facts aboutcohost illness death before the memorial serviceand weeks before the thomann family was toldstillman do you know whether the army ever investigated how high up the chainof command disinformation wentand second do you think this ought to be a cigaretteyou or misteruh... i don't i don't know how far they went up by thenlooks like they stoppedof the department of fence looks like they started aboutgeneral can bearit's it seems pretty disingenuous and i i i don't have the answers because thesethings get the smell to us whether their lead to the press for eleven oron this kind of why we were open we could get to you guys could you havethat accessyoung my mama's specifically among a lot of other people have really worked hardto get gather information try and figure out through all these redactionsto figure out who's doing or just figuring out it took a sipexhibits like nine months to figure out who actually did the investigationthe second one for the first one that was who also that the first official oneso it's tough to get informationand that's whyit's a bit disingenuous to think that the administration did not knowabout what was going on something sopolitically sensitiveso that's kind of what we were hoping you guys couldto get involved with and take a lookmain week we only can go so far we don't have access to these people we don'thave access to the unreacted information werelandlockedmust admit i was up but we'll do the best we canmixer things are some things about theseyes it is something thatuntil we do now the case thenalani've been doing a lot of reading aboutrumsfeldformer secretary of defense rumsfeldi believe just from what i've learned about him as a personin his expectations for his staffthat he would havehad this informationon he was in an individual who appreciate itunder peoplehigh-tech tied house without it going to come firsti can imaginethis memo could have been senthong konggeneral at the state in generalyou noted ttenzing original brown with the expectation that they would tell thepresident because rumsfeld wouldn't wantthere to be any direct line because he liked to beto go to the white housemonths i believe that he would have intercepted this memo first of allthe other thing is that he was doneyou know he britain had a letterwhich i don't think he makes a practice of doing that and it was an extravagantletter by any stretch it was about a two sentence letter but the fact that hestayed at the letterand pat was a very high-profile individual he was probably the mosthyped high-profile individual in the military at the timethe fact that he would be killed by friendly fire and no one would tellrumsfeld is is ludicrous because he would have had a fati need to have become you've been known to himafter the facts that have been extremely upsetting to himand i a m redyou know a particular but my head but there's a lot of research i've done onthe internet againstyou know this is my conclusion and i have no nothing to back it up i admitthat i have no paper trail no-fatbut just snap knowing the type of individual in the way he operatedi believe these generals would be absolutely foolishto not tell himthe system and you don't know whether it was ainvestigate all wearablegenerality art that you think that right you agreeyes of course thank you very much

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