Hearing on Tillman, Lynch Incidents: Rep. Braley’s Questions

The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform holds a hearing entitled “Misleading Information from the Battlefield.” The hearing focuses on the death of Army Ranger Specialist Patrick Tillman in Afghanistan and the capture and rescue of Army Private Jessica Lynch in Iraq. The Committee examines why inaccurate accounts of these two incidents were disseminated, the sources and motivations for the accounts, and whether the appropriate Administration officials have been held accountable. Rep. Bruce Braley questions whether edits were made to original reports about the incident that resulted in Tillman’s death.

Video Transcript

thank you very much mister clinton's trip reallytake u_s_ specialist on the old thank you for terry today in addition to beingan eyewitness to purple tillman stephan reporting this incident up the chain ofcommandyou were also involved in writing a statement that was used to work or puton the silver star to remember thatyes sirand now we are aware of serious questions that have been raised as towhether someone tampered with your statementlet me start by asking you whether you remember the point in time where youwere asked to writedown your recollections of that dayhike in ceremonies at point in time where allisonformed out of the writing up their witness statementtowards what happened i'm just remember having by putting surgeon at the timetell me thati was going to be running up a statement on what happened reform award for patcan you give us some general time frame and and the sequence of events whoyou've been discussing here today to give us somecontext into one that request was made by your platoon sergeanti would say uh... general time frame probablythe twenty six or twenty seven thirty fourwe've been tempted practically salerno for a few days after pat was killedsoloists and as we got back to salerno that's when i was advised or asked towrite a statement siri've been involvedin twenty three years of being an attorney and having witnesses preparestatementwas this is a situation where they gave you a sheet of paper told you to writedown in your own wordsyour best recollection of the events that happened or did someone prepare astatement for you to review and signwhat happens here was as i got sat behind a computerand i was told to type up my recollection of what happenedproduct and as soon as i was done typing i was relieved to go back to myprocessor now is the last i heard of itso when you finished tightening your statementit was in a digital formatbut had not been printed at sac cracked part of us are banded so no-one printedit out ask you to review it and various ed and sign it at the time it wasoriginally drafted by uncertainso at any time did you ever sinein your handwritinga statement that you've had reviewed and verify the authenticity aboutmegastarwhen i ask you about the statement that was also versed are commendationthis version of the statement says the followingquote corporal tillman moved us into a position where we would be safe fromenemy roundsto the best of your recollectiondid you write this sentencelessons sounds like something i would have routes are openand where were the enemy roundswe want a contract and your answer at that timeby we moved into a position or if we would have beenwe would've answered sircorporal tillmanshield you from enemy rounds anytimemake a certainthis version of the statement also says that you quote engaged the enemyvery successfully end quotethat the enemy moved most of their attention to your position which quotedrew a lot of fire from themdid you write the census claiming that you were engaged with the enemynasrindo you know who made the changes to your statement to make it appear is if youare receiving fire from the enemyrather than from your own puts himmister gamble the inspector general's office investigated these outalterations to the witnesses' statements and fight these differences as wellbut in the course of your investigation did you ever discover who specificallychange this language and wide that language was changedreligious fanaticism thesuck lessons a week at work or the packets of infowe got the job jones investigationand they will not stand the desert stamped his original signed and we areinvestors went back to uh... special saluting the sorts of and so did youwrite the easilya lot of past that know that they did not vote though that there was part ofit was an act of parts others were enactedwe'd run able to determine whocommand actually did the uh... the after operation though it's likely thatwondered people approved list of those cyprus placed on the site must be inuh...battalion rajmohan joint our task force commanders but they were accountable forthe uh...misstatements anak personsi havethen through my father service records from when he served on iwo jimaand there are signatures on almost every documentation of anything he did duringthe tire time he wasn't listedis that your understanding that this practice of taking unsigned statementsin support of accommodation recommendation is standard operatingprocedure within the armyi would not believe is that i would i would point out that hopes to restorethey're actually does not have to do of our slip and slide with some time thisoccurred it must be a citationwhat did you everdetermine the course of your investigationcooladult all the possible people who had contact with that statementwould have had the most likely person to have made alterations tothe statement originally prepared by specialist on the hilli said no we don't we cannot determine that wei could not to speculate that this pro prefer not to this is somewhere in theuh... approval chainthe gap an attitudeand nothe uh...so we're we're really kicktelephones to the actualwho did the keyboard changes on itso that looked as though you know route the only actually had a close when yousigned up on some thought i would likelast time something offer some similar as possible before they actuallyand i've held myself accountable so when you have the signatures on those suckersand and and uh... recommendationsthey become accountable for it as part of your investigation did you arebringing ninety specialist to look at the hard drive on that computer or anyother computer that that document has beenplacedof a determined whopat acts of the computer industry support for the operation we get this isa hard copy prone out on the part of the art of investigative package from thegeorgians investigationso did you ever determine the computers that it had been onwho had accessno no we did notdo you think that would be sensible follow part of an investigation lookinginto who might have been responsible for altering a document of this magnitudethey detected thing but could the youngthe issue date it was two years before end in failure and we werei'm not sure if they were tracked computer download dor we wouldn't know that unless we actually try to track it down quicklyspecial sonya i want to give you the opportunity to follow up on a responseyou're making in regard in response to mister waxmanand he had to get a cut you off to keep the hearing moving butyou were talking about after the shooting now whether or not purplethomann was dead of immediately and then you had to stop your narrative affectwould youcontinue with your narrative of what you were saying at the past cat prancearoundy hasta la femmeat the time i was on the groundand uh... i noticed blood cleanup around meand at that time i had thought that i was shockedsettlementi started communicating with pat not realizing he had passed away ac asking ahectic asking him if he had dental careand donaldi had no response anddeployed wasthey're all there was a lot of blood everywhere and i was starting to ouraccurately worried soldfinally demobilize to movei stood up in turn around and look at thatand he was sworn to back on the ground are covered in bloodand i want opposition i'd grab himand uh...realize at that time that he had been shot my headthere wasn't much like themuh...after that i kind of uh...camp blanked out really next thing i remember was uh...surgeon ward who was part of third squander telling me to pick up my helmetwho'd like to meet remember taking it offputting me on security to be meeting you know to move out of the original in thatwe're inand uh... i'd just have broad chunks more memory warwill come back and we'll go awaybasicallythat's the end of the night when i'm standing on the side of a building pointsecurityand uh... the regimental sergeant major sharma jim first comes up to me andasked me for my rightand after that next thing i rememberthese federal point to carry on that will pull uppersonaland telling special stereo a backpack had been killed by friendly fire sirthank you uh...bailey mystical

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